Re: The Marine With The Umbrella
Group: alt.politics.usa Date: Mon, May 20, 2013, 6:23pm From:
On Mon, 20 May 2013 16:46:02 -0500, Steve Bartman <***@visi.com>
On Mon, 20 May 2013 17:24:48 -0400, Mason Barge <***@gmail.com>
On Mon, 20 May 2013 14:13:18 -0500, Steve Bartman <***@visi.com>
Apparently this issue is all over the right-wing blogosphere as nutjobs
jizz all over themselves with statements that the president caused a
Marine to violate uniform regulations. They are unable to distinguish,
it seems, that the Marine in question was "operating" the umbrella, not
carrying it or making it a part of his uniform.
Well, not to mention, Obama is the Commander in Chief. A Marine uniform
is whatever he says it is.
True. I was trying to be sensitive to the separation of powers argument
I was sure was coming as a follow-up, the enumerated power of Congress
to make laws for the governance of the armed forces, etc. But in my
experience uniform regs come from the service secretaries, although they
delegate, as here, to others. In this case the Commandant of the MC.
Congress would get involved if appropriated funds were needed to
re-clothe the services, but the issue of design and wearing is not
something they get into.
Interesting for me, I learned that female Marines may, optionally, carry
a foldable umbrella so long as they have their saluting hand free. Males
The Navy never uses umbrellas, either gender in my experience. I think
the Air Force does. Not sure about the Army.
Army Regulation 670-1 (Wear and Appearance of Army Uniforms and
Equipment), paragraph 27-27, reads: Females may carry and use an
umbrella, only during inclement weather, when wearing the service (class
A and B), dress, and mess uniforms. Umbrellas are not authorized in
formations or when wearing field or utility uniforms.
Of course generals can do whatever the hell they want to. I bet these
guys screaming about Obama's umbrella had no problem at all with
Patton's pearl-handled revolvers.
Generals ina combat zone can carry any sidearm they please.
Hell, Gen. Matthew Ridgeway never carried a sidearm, but did carry a
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