NASA Begs MUSK - Divert "DEI" Spending !

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NASA staff beg Elon Musk to 'clean house' after agency spent
millions of Americans' money on DEI agenda

NASA staff are calling on Elon Musk to 'clean house' as it
is revealed the agency blew millions of taxpayer money on
diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) programs.

Spending reports from 2020 to 2024 showed NASA awarded grants
to universities and consulting firms to support 'environmental
justice' and initiatives that 'embrace greater diversity and
inclusive practices.'

. . .

Oooooh Boy !

NASA is ONE place where MERIT/SKILL should
outweigh everything else !!! They shoot off
giant $$$ rockets, sometimes full of people !

Well, Musk's their guy here - and I think NASA
will be an early project Just Because.

Yet ANOTHER thing totally fucked-up by Joe/K
and the extreme WokieComs.

Trump himself also has interest in "space" stuff,
one reason he and Musk got along so well. Trump
wants to see good space stations, moon bases and
beyond - sort of the "2001" vision with a US flag
painted on the side.

Better MOVE on it too ... China is about caught-up,
and signaling to pass ........

[Chris Ahlstrom]

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Right-wing tabloid, the British National Inquirer.

[pothead]

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14079781/elon-musk-nasa-millions-americans-money-dei-agenda.html
NASA staff beg Elon Musk to 'clean house' after agency spent
millions of Americans' money on DEI agenda
NASA staff are calling on Elon Musk to 'clean house' as it
is revealed the agency blew millions of taxpayer money on
diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) programs.
Spending reports from 2020 to 2024 showed NASA awarded grants
to universities and consulting firms to support 'environmental
justice' and initiatives that 'embrace greater diversity and
inclusive practices.'
. . .
Oooooh Boy !
NASA is ONE place where MERIT/SKILL should
outweigh everything else !!! They shoot off
giant $$$ rockets, sometimes full of people !
Well, Musk's their guy here - and I think NASA
will be an early project Just Because.
Yet ANOTHER thing totally fucked-up by Joe/K
and the extreme WokieComs.
Trump himself also has interest in "space" stuff,
one reason he and Musk got along so well. Trump
wants to see good space stations, moon bases and
beyond - sort of the "2001" vision with a US flag
painted on the side.
Better MOVE on it too ... China is about caught-up,
and signaling to pass ........

If I were sitting on top of a huge bomb I would want to be assured that the
brightest and best designed, built and assembled that bomb. And I don't give a hoot
if they are black, white, green, male,female, straight, gay or otherwise.
As long as they are the best.
DEI like affirmative action is and will always be a complete failure.
And we are seeing this right now as companies quietly disband their DEI policies.

[Siri Cruise]

Post by pothead
DEI like affirmative action is and will always be a complete failure.
And we are seeing this right now as companies quietly disband their DEI policies.

When you catch racist hiring, the solution is to applaud it.

[pothead]

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by pothead
DEI like affirmative action is and will always be a complete failure.
And we are seeing this right now as companies quietly disband their DEI policies.

When you catch racist hiring, the solution is to applaud it.

What part of "hire the best candidate for the job" do you not understand?
Oh, and BTW, you snipped that part.

[J Carlson]

On 11/16/2024 7:24 AM, "pothole," chromosomally male but not the least bit

Post by pothead

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by pothead
DEI like affirmative action is and will always be a complete failure.
And we are seeing this right now as companies quietly disband their DEI policies.

When you catch racist hiring, the solution is to applaud it.

What part of "hire the best candidate for the job" do you not understand?

What part of "Trump has *never* hired the best candidate for the job" do *you*
fail to understand?

[Siri Cruise]

Post by pothead

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by pothead
DEI like affirmative action is and will always be a complete failure.
And we are seeing this right now as companies quietly disband their DEI policies.

When you catch racist hiring, the solution is to applaud it.

What part of "hire the best candidate for the job" do you not understand?
Oh, and BTW, you snipped that part.

And you will decide a black is never the best candidate. You do
not want AA because it has an objective tests for racism.

[Chris Ahlstrom]

Post by pothead

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by pothead
DEI like affirmative action is and will always be a complete failure.
And we are seeing this right now as companies quietly disband their DEI policies.

When you catch racist hiring, the solution is to applaud it.

What part of "hire the best candidate for the job" do you not understand?
Oh, and BTW, you snipped that part.

And you will decide a black is never the best candidate. You do not want AA
because it has an objective tests for racism.

Bullshit. That is exactly what is *wrong* with affirmative action. It neither
reduces current racism nor remediates past racism. What it does is establish
quotas, under the false premise that there "ought" to be the same percentage of
people in every position from every demographic group as their percentages of
the general population. That "ought" is simply false.

Affirmative action does nothing to remediate past discrimination based on race.
Suppose a highly qualified black applicant to the NYPD or NYFD was denied
selection in the 1950s due solely to his race. Then 30 years later, that man's
utterly *unqualified* grandson is hired over well-qualified whites, *solely* due
to the grandson's race. In what way does that remediate the absolute wrong that
was done to the grandfather? *It doesn't*. There may be /some/ way to make up
that wrong to the grandfather, but hiring his unqualified grandson isn't it —
and the larger society suffers by having an incompetent cop or fireman on the force.

[Chris Ahlstrom]

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[pothead]

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

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That shit was written by an imposter.
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I use slrn, Cletus.

Yes.
I will back you on this Chris.
Rudy hasn't figured out how to use slrn yet and probably never will.
He's not the brightest bulb in the box.

[Siri Cruise]

Post by Chris Ahlstrom
Bullshit. That is exactly what is *wrong* with affirmative action.
It neither reduces current racism nor remediates past racism. What
it does is establish quotas, under the false premise that there
"ought" to be the same percentage of people in every position from
every demographic group as their percentages of the general
population. That "ought" is simply false.

It does. Assuming all men are created equal, distributions of
employees must match distributions of the pool of qualified job
applicants.

Post by Chris Ahlstrom
Affirmative action does nothing to remediate past discrimination
based on race. Suppose a highly qualified black applicant to the

That is not the purpose of torts. A specific action is brought
into court and on proof by overwhelming evidence, the court
corrects this action.

Post by Chris Ahlstrom
NYPD or NYFD was denied selection in the 1950s due solely to his
race. Then 30 years later, that man's utterly *unqualified*
grandson is hired over well-qualified whites, *solely* due to the

You are assuming all men are not created equal. Statistics cannot
be used with individuals, which is why AA does not apply to small
companies. When the payroll is large enough, the distributions of
employees will match distributions of the pool of qualified
candidate assuming all people are created equal and hiring
decisions are fair.

[Chris Ahlstrom]

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Chris Ahlstrom
Bullshit. That is exactly what is *wrong* with affirmative action. It neither
reduces current racism nor remediates past racism. What it does is establish
quotas, under the false premise that there "ought" to be the same percentage
of people in every position from every demographic group as their percentages
of the general population. That "ought" is simply false.

It does.

That is not a logical response to what was written.

Post by Siri Cruise
Assuming all men are created equal, distributions of employees must
match distributions of the pool of qualified job applicants.

/non sequitur/

Qualified applicants are not all *equally* qualified.

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Chris Ahlstrom
Affirmative action does nothing to remediate past discrimination based on
race. Suppose a highly qualified black applicant to the

That is not the purpose of torts.

Affirmative action is not based on torts, stupid.

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Chris Ahlstrom
NYPD or NYFD was denied selection in the 1950s due solely to his race. Then 30
years later, that man's utterly *unqualified* grandson is hired over well-
qualified whites, *solely* due to the

You are assuming all men are not created equal.

♣

I am not assuming anything of the kind. All men are, or should be, presumed to
be equal before the law. But all men are *not* created with equal ability.

[Siri Cruise]

 ♣

?

[Chris Ahlstrom]

  ♣

?

/non sequitur/

[NoBody]

On Sat, 16 Nov 2024 11:26:07 -0800, Siri Cruise

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Chris Ahlstrom
Bullshit. That is exactly what is *wrong* with affirmative action.
It neither reduces current racism nor remediates past racism. What
it does is establish quotas, under the false premise that there
"ought" to be the same percentage of people in every position from
every demographic group as their percentages of the general
population. That "ought" is simply false.

It does. Assuming all men are created equal, distributions of
employees must match distributions of the pool of qualified job
applicants.

False presumption. This presumes that all men of all races think
identically. You have to factor in what the cultures focus on as
prioritites. If you attempt to force everyone into a mold of your
creation you end up with a bad answer.

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Chris Ahlstrom
Affirmative action does nothing to remediate past discrimination
based on race. Suppose a highly qualified black applicant to the

That is not the purpose of torts. A specific action is brought
into court and on proof by overwhelming evidence, the court
corrects this action.

A court can not dictate discrimination to remediate what it sees as
past discrimination.

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Chris Ahlstrom
NYPD or NYFD was denied selection in the 1950s due solely to his
race. Then 30 years later, that man's utterly *unqualified*
grandson is hired over well-qualified whites, *solely* due to the

You are assuming all men are not created equal. Statistics cannot
be used with individuals, which is why AA does not apply to small
companies. When the payroll is large enough, the distributions of
employees will match distributions of the pool of qualified
candidate assuming all people are created equal and hiring
decisions are fair.

Your basic premise presumes far too many things are equal to be
accurate.

[Siri Cruise]

Post by NoBody
On Sat, 16 Nov 2024 11:26:07 -0800, Siri Cruise

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Chris Ahlstrom
Bullshit. That is exactly what is *wrong* with affirmative action.
It neither reduces current racism nor remediates past racism. What
it does is establish quotas, under the false premise that there
"ought" to be the same percentage of people in every position from
every demographic group as their percentages of the general
population. That "ought" is simply false.

It does. Assuming all men are created equal, distributions of
employees must match distributions of the pool of qualified job
applicants.

False presumption. This presumes that all men of all races think
identically. You have to factor in what the cultures focus on as
prioritites. If you attempt to force everyone into a mold of your
creation you end up with a bad answer.

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Chris Ahlstrom
Affirmative action does nothing to remediate past discrimination
based on race. Suppose a highly qualified black applicant to the

That is not the purpose of torts. A specific action is brought
into court and on proof by overwhelming evidence, the court
corrects this action.

A court can not dictate discrimination to remediate what it sees as
past discrimination.

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Chris Ahlstrom
NYPD or NYFD was denied selection in the 1950s due solely to his
race. Then 30 years later, that man's utterly *unqualified*
grandson is hired over well-qualified whites, *solely* due to the

You are assuming all men are not created equal. Statistics cannot
be used with individuals, which is why AA does not apply to small
companies. When the payroll is large enough, the distributions of
employees will match distributions of the pool of qualified
candidate assuming all people are created equal and hiring
decisions are fair.

Your basic premise presumes far too many things are equal to be
accurate.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created
equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain
unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the
pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments
are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the
consent of the governed.

[NoBody]

On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 06:59:01 -0800, Siri Cruise

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by NoBody
On Sat, 16 Nov 2024 11:26:07 -0800, Siri Cruise

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Chris Ahlstrom
Bullshit. That is exactly what is *wrong* with affirmative action.
It neither reduces current racism nor remediates past racism. What
it does is establish quotas, under the false premise that there
"ought" to be the same percentage of people in every position from
every demographic group as their percentages of the general
population. That "ought" is simply false.

It does. Assuming all men are created equal, distributions of
employees must match distributions of the pool of qualified job
applicants.

False presumption. This presumes that all men of all races think
identically. You have to factor in what the cultures focus on as
prioritites. If you attempt to force everyone into a mold of your
creation you end up with a bad answer.

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Chris Ahlstrom
Affirmative action does nothing to remediate past discrimination
based on race. Suppose a highly qualified black applicant to the

That is not the purpose of torts. A specific action is brought
into court and on proof by overwhelming evidence, the court
corrects this action.

A court can not dictate discrimination to remediate what it sees as
past discrimination.

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Chris Ahlstrom
NYPD or NYFD was denied selection in the 1950s due solely to his
race. Then 30 years later, that man's utterly *unqualified*
grandson is hired over well-qualified whites, *solely* due to the

You are assuming all men are not created equal. Statistics cannot
be used with individuals, which is why AA does not apply to small
companies. When the payroll is large enough, the distributions of
employees will match distributions of the pool of qualified
candidate assuming all people are created equal and hiring
decisions are fair.

Your basic premise presumes far too many things are equal to be
accurate.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created
equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain
unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the
pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments
are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the
consent of the governed.

And the drunk passes out after snipping the context of what I said.

[Scout]

Post by NoBody
On Sat, 16 Nov 2024 11:26:07 -0800, Siri Cruise

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Chris Ahlstrom
Bullshit. That is exactly what is *wrong* with affirmative action.
It neither reduces current racism nor remediates past racism. What
it does is establish quotas, under the false premise that there
"ought" to be the same percentage of people in every position from
every demographic group as their percentages of the general
population. That "ought" is simply false.

It does. Assuming all men are created equal, distributions of
employees must match distributions of the pool of qualified job
applicants.

False presumption. This presumes that all men of all races think
identically. You have to factor in what the cultures focus on as
prioritites. If you attempt to force everyone into a mold of your
creation you end up with a bad answer. ♣

I've been seeing (not exactly "following") Kremlin Girl / Bit of Nothingness
since early 2017, right after the fascist Orange Fat Fuck was inaugurated. This
is the first time in coming up on eight years, and undoubtedly the last time,
that something she posted made a single bit of sense. Narcissist Girl (Siri)
makes a colossal error in assuming that cultural differences play no role in how
people sort themselves into career and school choices. They do make a
difference. I have worked in information technology for close to 50 years, in
programming, database administration and system administration, in large
companies and small, and I can count the number of black programmers, sysadmins
and DBAs I've worked with on one hand. And my career began in the heyday of
affirmative action and anti-discrimination law, so invidious discrimination
against blacks cannot be the answer. The answer is that, for whatever cultural
reasons, blacks aren't much drawn to I.T.

There are cultural reasons why nearly all women's manicurists are Vietnamese,
and why, at least in southern California, nearly all independent doughnut shops
are owned and operated by Cambodians. Narcissist Girl is an idiot for not
understanding that.

[Siri Cruise]

Post by Scout
I've been seeing (not exactly "following") Kremlin Girl / Bit of
Nothingness since early 2017, right after the fascist Orange Fat
Fuck was inaugurated. This is the first time in coming up on eight
years, and undoubtedly the last time, that something she posted
made a single bit of sense. Narcissist Girl (Siri) makes a
colossal error in assuming that cultural differences play

You bigots reject the declaration of independence and 14th.

[NoBody]

On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 19:03:47 -0800, Siri Cruise

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Scout
I've been seeing (not exactly "following") Kremlin Girl / Bit of
Nothingness since early 2017, right after the fascist Orange Fat
Fuck was inaugurated. This is the first time in coming up on eight
years, and undoubtedly the last time, that something she posted
made a single bit of sense. Narcissist Girl (Siri) makes a
colossal error in assuming that cultural differences play

You bigots reject the declaration of independence and 14th.

Looks like you fell for a Rudely troll.
Good to see he's still out there obsessed with me. Even better that
he wastes his time since this is the only way I see his garbage.

Dance to my tune little Rudely!

[pothead]

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by pothead

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by pothead
DEI like affirmative action is and will always be a complete failure.
And we are seeing this right now as companies quietly disband their DEI policies.

When you catch racist hiring, the solution is to applaud it.

What part of "hire the best candidate for the job" do you not understand?
Oh, and BTW, you snipped that part.

And you will decide a black is never the best candidate. You do
not want AA because it has an objective tests for racism.

Maybe for you but not for me.
My orthopedist is black and one of the top doctors in the country.
My calculus professor was black and one of the best professors I had while in college.

I choose the best.

DEI dilutes that metric.

[NoBody]

On Sat, 16 Nov 2024 10:32:18 -0800, Siri Cruise

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by pothead

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by pothead
DEI like affirmative action is and will always be a complete failure.
And we are seeing this right now as companies quietly disband their DEI policies.

When you catch racist hiring, the solution is to applaud it.

What part of "hire the best candidate for the job" do you not understand?
Oh, and BTW, you snipped that part.

And you will decide a black is never the best candidate. You do
not want AA because it has an objective tests for racism.

Where did he say this?

Damn you're stuck on stupid.

[NoBody]

Post by ***@ud0s4.net
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14079781/elon-musk-nasa-
millions-americans-money-dei-agenda.html
NASA staff beg Elon Musk to 'clean house' after agency spent
millions of Americans' money on DEI agenda

Bullshit.