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Only USA Still Uses Anything Like Electoral College
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186282@ud0s4.net
2024-10-15 03:28:32 UTC
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Well, most countries ........ :-(

The logic behind the EC is similar to the logic
behind having a separate Senate - it kind of
equalizes the political power/value of each
individual state.

It IS the "United STATES of America", not the
"People's Imperial Republic" or whatever. People
are valued, but each member state as well. The EC
kinda splits the difference and makes everybody
much happier, improves stability.

Those in the USA who want to abolish the EC are
almost exclusively further-left elements who
wish to politically silence all but a few high-
pop areas they usually control.
John Doe
2024-10-15 03:43:21 UTC
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  Well, most countries ........  :-(
  The logic behind the EC is similar to the logic
  behind having a separate Senate - it kind of
  equalizes the political power/value of each
  individual state.
  It IS the "United STATES of America", not the
  "People's Imperial Republic" or whatever. People
  are valued, but each member state as well. The EC
  kinda splits the difference and makes everybody
  much happier, improves stability.
  Those in the USA who want to abolish the EC are
  almost exclusively further-left elements who
  wish to politically silence all but a few high-
  pop areas they usually control.
As it is, the EC gives a WAY outsized influence to no more than a
half-dozen or so swing states. That doesn't feel healthy or reasonable
to me.

The popular vote would be FAR harder to tamper with.
Clarence Callahan
2024-10-15 13:42:48 UTC
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  Well, most countries ........  :-(
  The logic behind the EC
The *only* logic behind the electoral college was to promote slavery.
John Doe
2024-10-15 19:31:39 UTC
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   Well, most countries ........  :-(
   The logic behind the EC
The *only* logic behind the electoral college was to promote slavery.
Exactly. The less populous states already get an outsized vote in the
Senate. That should be enough.
super70s
2024-10-15 22:03:17 UTC
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Well, most countries ........ :-(
The logic behind the EC is similar to the logic
behind having a separate Senate - it kind of
equalizes the political power/value of each
individual state.
No it doesn't "equalize" shit. What's the difference between California
and NY deciding the election and 4 or 5 swing states? The votes of most
Americans are not accounted for regardless.

If there was no EC (as in every other major democracy around the world)
we wouldn't have 50 "mini-elections" and practically a zero chance for
any sizable election-deciding fraud Republicans are always harping on.

But Republicans, with their chronically unpopular policies, want the EC
especially these days so they can sew as much chaos around the outcome
of the election as possible.
John Doe
2024-10-15 22:33:16 UTC
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. . .
   Well, most countries ........  :-(
   The logic behind the EC is similar to the logic
   behind having a separate Senate - it kind of
   equalizes the political power/value of each
   individual state.
No it doesn't "equalize" shit. What's the difference between California
and NY deciding the election and 4 or 5 swing states? The votes of most
Americans are not accounted for regardless.
If there was no EC (as in every other major democracy around the world)
we wouldn't have 50 "mini-elections" and practically a zero chance for
any sizable election-deciding fraud Republicans are always harping on.
But Republicans, with their chronically unpopular policies, want the EC
especially these days so they can sew as much chaos around the outcome
of the election as possible.
Yup. Gerrymandering is the real problem, I think.

A normal party in the GOP position would be adapting their platform to
include more citizens and represent the goals of those citizens. Today's
GOP is instead concentrating on putting up roadblocks in the way of the
people they don't like voting.

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